Showing posts with label NATO. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NATO. Show all posts

Sunday, October 07, 2012

Syria Asks For Action: Turkey Is A NATO Country


Just like there was no non-violent solution to Hitler the only just conclusion to the state mayhem in Syria is military action by an alliance of countries.

Turkey is a NATO country. The NATO premise is that if any NATO member is attacked, all NATO countries will join in a counter attack.

Well, a NATO country has been attacked. Turkey has been attacked.
The organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.
Nowhere does it say in the NATO chapter that NATO needs UN approval, or approval from China and Russia before action can be taken.

It is a shame that the world watches as tens of thousands get killed in Syria.

NATO should take action on behalf of Turkey, or it should dissolve itself.

I stand for non violent movements for democracy. That is my principle. But Syria is a clear case for military action to lead to regime change.

Given the circumstances only Turkey can save the day. Turkey is the only legitimate regional power around there. And it needs to flex some muscle.

Wider war feared between Turkey and Syria more than 30,000 people have been killed since the anti-Assad uprising began.

Can Turkey force U.S. and other NATO countries to attack Syria? the United States, would be compelled to strike back on Turkey's behalf..... British Foreign Minister William Hague Sunday called the incident "outrageous" ..... Secretary of State Hillary Clinton .. called the incident a "brazen and unacceptable act........ The meeting, or "consultations," is one Turkey called under Article 4 of the NATO treaty .... With the consultations, there is a chance Turkey will demand a collective military response. The notion comes from what is known as Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's Washington Treaty, which states that should a member nation - which Turkey is - be attacked, other NATO members are compelled in a collective act of self-defense ...... the plane was shot down in international air space. .... Turkey's prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, may feel compelled to make a decisive response ..... "Turkey is a NATO member. Turkey is a very, very formidable power. Turkey is four times the size of Syria. The Turkish military is a mighty institution. ...... "And the idea that this ragtag regime in Damascus would shoot down a Turkish airplane, a jet fighter ... a Phantom - F-4 Phantom plane - tells you that Bashar al-Assad's regime has the sense of invulnerability, that no one is coming to the rescue of the Syrian population"

Turkey warns Syria future attacks 'will be silenced' The Turkish parliament has approved a resolution allowing military forces to deploy abroad
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Sunday, February 19, 2012

Russian, Chinese Stands On Syria: Great News

Russia's Putin Feeding Bashar Assad  Syrian's ...Russia's Putin Feeding Bashar Assad Syrian's Blood (Photo credit: FreedomHouse)For those who don't think Russia and China are just too big, and so there's no hope for democracy entering those domains, their wrong stands on Syria is an opportunity to expose them. Unless they come on board, Libya like military action is not possible, necessary but not possible. But there are so many other options.

There is always room for unilateral military action. Aerial bombardments are an option for NATO. America is not seeking Russian and Chinese approval for any possible military action on Iran. But there are several options before that. One is getting the Syrian opposition better organized. That is political work. And the opposition army in Syria could be provided help. So there is no global military action. But there is action on the ground by those who have rightfully defected from the Syrian Army.

Homs Is Benghazi

The best strategy on Russia and China is to engage them. Let them spell out all their arguments. The more they speak in support of a dictator the more they themselves get exposed. People in Russia are listening. People in China are listening. Syria is a great opportunity to expose the dictatorship in Russia. Russia is an example of how you can have elections and still not have democracy.

MSNBC: US drones monitoring clashes in Syria
In a show of support for Assad, China's vice foreign minister, Zhai Jun, arrived in Damascus after the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution telling the increasingly isolated president to halt the crackdown and surrender power.
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Tuesday, May 03, 2011

UN Military Action For Democracy: Precision Needed: Syria Is Hurting

Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad in YerevanImage by PanARMENIAN_Photo via FlickrWhat has been going on in Syria has been breaking my heart. It is like these bastards who run the country have basically decided they will stop at nothing.

There is an urgent need for a Libya repeat.

I am not saying the US needs to get involved in a fourth war. Libya is not war. Aerial military action is not war. It is more like police action.

We have to learn from Libya. The lesson from Libya is it is basically fruitless to just target the peddlers in the streets and let the big druglords go.

The NATO powers need to read that UN resolution a little more closely. NATO has been authorized to stop the brutality upon unarmed civilians. But that has continued unabated. And so NATO has to take out the command and control apparatus at Gaddafi's disposal.

The best way to do this is by taking the top guy out. We experimented in Libya. Now we have to revise our operations in Libya, and we have to do it right in Syria.

You freeze all foreign assets of all members of the regime. You issue interpol orders for their arrests. You get a UN resolution passed. You demand that all violent action against peaceful protesters cease. And if the guy does not comply, you take the top guy out through surgical aerial strikes. If it takes more than a week, you are not doing it right.

Some people are like oh no, you get rid of the dictator and there is going to be chaos. Chaos is now. Chaos is that hundreds of innocent civilians have been butchered, and there seems to be no end in sight.

The people in Syria are not lesser people. If people in Libya deserve protection so do the people in Syria.

Democracy wins in Syria and that is bad news for the mullahs in Iran. Because, ultimately, it is about Iran.

The Scary Version
Is Russia Too Big For A Democracy Movement?
Putin Is No Different
I Am Going To Act Like This Is 2007
Drugs And Guns
Another One Bites The Dust
Ai Weiwei
To Zimbabwe Through Ivory Coast
Obama 2012 Is On
Time For Nonviolent Protests In Libya
A Rwanda Was Prevented
Syria's Turn
Khalifa Of Bahrain Must Go
The Two Abdullahs Need To Go
North Korea In Sight
The Anatomy Of Revolutions For Democracy
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Tuesday, March 15, 2011

Democracy's Despair


If Gaddafi can treat half of Libya like Saddam Hussein treated Kuwait, if the Saudi king can send his army into a neighboring country to pull a Gaddafi on a people peacefully demonstrating for democracy, if we are requesting Chinese and Russian cooperation for the necessary work for democracy - I mean, we might as well seek Gaddafi's cooperation on human rights then - I am at a loss for words.

For the first time I have begun to have my doubts about Barack Obama. I am not seeing much audacity. I am not seeing much hope.

The fire of democracy is being snuffed out by two mad dogs in the Middle East through brute force.

This is how the Burmese Generals did it a few years back. This is how they did it in Iran in 2009. They decided there was no limit to how much brute force they were willing to unleash upon a peacefully demonstrating people.

I am not feeling too good right now.

The thing to do was to get a NATO mandate to make surgical strikes to take the mad dog out early on when the rebels were looking to march on Tripoli. Instead you have a scenario where Gaddafi is about to bulldoze Benghazi. This is sad.

If Gaddafi and the Saudi king get away with what they are doing, forget the idea of democracy demonstrations in China. It is not happening. The momentum will have been broken. A democracy movement is all about momentum.


North Korea In Sight
Secretary Hillary
John Kerry Has The Solution
No Fly Zone Or Massacre
Saudi Arabi Next
Talk to Jazeera: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
The Anatomy Of Revolutions For Democracy


Thursday, March 03, 2011

Democracy With Lowest Possible Losses Of Human Lives

Muammar al-Gaddafi  Mouammar Kadhafi  _DDC6339Image by Abode of Chaos via FlickrThat is the goal. We want democracy. Everywhere. Because that is what people everywhere want. It comes from deep inside. Liberation is the lofty goal.

But there are mechanics involved. There are logistics involved. There are tactics involved.

Democracy can not come through US military invasions. That is the wrong kind. Democracy has to come because a people decided enough was enough, and took to the streets in large numbers.

Getting a people to come out into the streets is the hardest part of a democracy movement. But once that happens to let that go to waste is nothing less than criminal. Once a people come take to the streets, the entire world has to then pitch in.

I am okay with the idea of a constitutional monarchy, if that means a low loss of lives, and a peaceful, smooth transition. I am okay with that. I am not okay with that as a matter of principle. But I am okay with that as a matter of tactics.

When an autocratic regime sees seas of people out in the streets, its first reaction is to send the police out, send the army out. You throw tear gas at them. You shoot at them. You baton charge them. You round them up. You imprison them. You interrogate, you torture. And all that is wrong enough. But Gaddafi has gone way past that. He has gone after his own people like an invading army, fighter jets and all, and he has continued to reign like an occupying force. There a peacefully protesting people are no longer a match. You could not have expected those in the concentration camps to have fasted their way to life and freedom. Hitler needed a military response and he got one. The response to a Gaddafi is not a peacefully protesting people. It would be inhuman to expect that.

An exile for Gaddafi is an option. It would not be just. But it can be a sound tactical move to make. To bring the violence to an end, to bring an autocratic regime to an end. But that is not an option that can be suggested from outside. I said days ago this guy will commit suicide. He will not go into exile. It is a mindset thing.

The question for the rest of us is will we let this guy kill a few thousand people before he commits suicide? Or will we step in before he kills those people.

We have to step in.

Democracy is on the march worldwide. China itself is in sight. But the momentum could be broken in Libya. If this guy gets his way, the momentum might get broken. The momentum can not be allowed to be broken. This is not about Libya any more, if it ever was.

A victory for democracy in Libya has repurcussions for the entire region, and the world at large.

Any military action has to be sanctioned either by the UN or NATO. And it should not be about sending troops in. The rebel forces have plenty of boots on the ground. Decisive surgical strikes to decapitate the regime and disable the forces still loyal to Gaddafi might be enough to tilt the victory away from the mad man. Enforcing a no fly zone could help.

But the victory has to be swift, and all credit has to be given to the Libyan people. And we have to help them with the subsequent transition.

And then we have to focus on the next Libya, the next Egypt, the next Tunisia, for dictators and kings need to fall everywhere.

Washington Post: Obama signals willingness to intervene militarily in Libya if crisis worsens: "The region will be watching carefully to make sure we're on the right side of history," Obama said ...... As with Egypt and Tunisia, he said, U.S. interests were best served if the United States was not seen as engineering or imposing a particular outcome. ...... Having raised the possibility of imposing a no-fly zone over Libya and after moving warships into the Mediterranean, the United States and its allies appeared Thursday to step back from military intervention, even as opposition forces in Libya continued to call for assistance from foreign air power. ...... After their unexpected victory Wednesday over well-armed Gaddafi forces in the oil port of Brega, rebel fighters regrouped to bury their dead and to lay plans to carry the fight toward Tripoli, Libya's embattled capital. ..... Brega was hit Thursday by at least three powerful airstrikes, while rebels clashed with Gaddafi loyalists in the nearby Mediterranean town of Bishra. In Tripoli, there were signs of a government crackdown in an attempt to head off planned street protests after Friday prayers. ....... Activists in Benghazi, the eastern city that serves as the rebel capital, were calling for a million people to protest ....... the United States, Britain, France, Canada and others have indicated they would participate ...... The Obama administration and its European allies have indicated they would not act without authorization from the U.N. Security Council. ...... Arab and African governments have expressed serious reservations about granting the authority to use force, as has Russia. China's U.N. envoy, Li Baodong, told reporters Wednesday that Beijing wants the dispute to be resolved through dialogue. ...... "A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya." ...... On Wednesday, Human Rights Watch reported a missile strike, apparently aimed at rebels in a main square in Brega ...... In Rome, the World Food Program said that a ship carrying more than 1,000 metric tons of wheat flour to Benghazi had returned to port in Malta without unloading, after reports of aerial bombardments near the Libyan city.

Miami Herald: International court opens war-crimes probe of Gadhafi: a worrisome pattern of arrests and disappearances of suspected opponents of the regime, and there were reports that Egyptian and Tunisian migrants in Libya were being attacked by Gadhafi loyalists angry that the popular uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt had inspired anti-Gadhafi protests there...... With Gadhafi's forces unable to recover key rebellious cities and towns, and with the ragtag rebel force of civilians and military defectors too weak and disorganized to advance on Gadhafi's Tripoli stronghold, the two-week conflict appeared to be devolving into a violent impasse...... Governments across the Middle East, meanwhile, braced for what were expected to be massive pro-reform protests after mosques empty on Friday, the Muslim day of prayer

Gaddafi Is No Simon Bolivar
No Fly Zone Or Surgical Strikes
If Gaddafi Is Not President, It Should Be Easier For Him To Leave
Sound Military Options
Nicaragua, Ortega On The Radar
Make Surgical Strikes, Take The Guy Out
Kick Ortega Out
The Fuck With Mugabe
The Chinese Communist Party Can Keep The Power If They Agree To Pluralism, Federalism
This Is Also About Women's Rights
The Saudi King Is No Exception, He Has To Go Too
Democracy: An Israeli Plot?
China: 2 PM, Sunday
Bomb Gaddafi's Tent
Khameini, Gaddafi, Caecescu
Et Tu, China?
When They Open Fire
Iran: Brute Force Does Have An Answer
Iran, Bahrain and Yemen, Jordan, Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia
Arab Democracy: What The US Needs To Do: Stay Deeply Engaged
Arab Dictators Are Shaking
Egypt: A Revolution, Not A Reform Movement
How Many People Could Mubarak Kill?
Arab Dictators Will Fall Like A House Of Cards
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Wednesday, March 02, 2011

No Fly Zone Or Surgical Strikes

Muammar al-Gaddafi's signature.Image via WikipediaA no fly zone would be big and complicated. Surgical strikes would be swift and momentary. The goal would be to decapitate the regime.

When law enforcement shoots down a criminal with a track record of violence, with a propensity to violence, in an act of criminal violence, is that a violent act? Or is that law enforcement?

When crimes against humanity are being committed, you don't just wait and watch. You take action. You take all kinds of action, you keep open the military options. And surgical strikes would be a game changer.

The Libyans who have taken the rest of the country will take over Tripoli as well. They will do it themselves. But a little help can go a long way. The threat of surgical strikes has to be maintained by NATO. The idea is to make Gaddafi think twice before he unleashes brutality upon peacefully protesting people. That would be all. The Libyan people will complete the revolution themselves.

If Gaddafi Is Not President, It Should Be Easier For Him To Leave
Sound Military Options
Nicaragua, Ortega On The Radar
Make Surgical Strikes, Take The Guy Out
Kick Ortega Out
The Fuck With Mugabe
The Chinese Communist Party Can Keep The Power If They Agree To Pluralism, Federalism
This Is Also About Women's Rights
The Saudi King Is No Exception, He Has To Go Too
Democracy: An Israeli Plot?
China: 2 PM, Sunday
Bomb Gaddafi's Tent
Khameini, Gaddafi, Caecescu
Et Tu, China?
When They Open Fire
Iran: Brute Force Does Have An Answer
Iran, Bahrain and Yemen, Jordan, Syria, Libya, Saudi Arabia
Arab Democracy: What The US Needs To Do: Stay Deeply Engaged
Arab Dictators Are Shaking
Egypt: A Revolution, Not A Reform Movement
How Many People Could Mubarak Kill?
Arab Dictators Will Fall Like A House Of Cards
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